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Ratdog Live at Ziggy's on 2003-05-01

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Ratdog Live at Ziggy's on 2003-05-01

by Ratdog

Topics Live concert

I: Blackbird > Twilight Time, Mexicali Blues > Black-Throated Wind > Bird Song Jam > Jack Straw > Dark Star > Little Red Rooster > It's All Over Now > She Says > Liberty

II: Big Boss Man > Wrong Way Feelin' > New Speedway Boogie > This Time Forever > Shade of Grey > The Wheel, Alphabet Soup Jam > Dark Star > China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider

E: White Lightning* > The RatDog Drinking Song

Collection Ratdog
Band/Artist Ratdog
Venue Ziggy's
Location Winston-Salem, NC

Taped by
Transferred by


* w/ A.J. Santella

Digitally remastered using a custom built, Dual-DAW, nicknamed Bertha, by Completed on June 3, 2003.

The fade between disc 1 and dis 2 was removed with larger media in mind.


Reviewer: Bill M - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 9, 2008
Subject: excellent show
Worth the download. Sound is excellent & very good set list. Really enjoyed the "Blackbird" acoustic opener. Many other highlights too. Thanks to the Bertha DAW!
Reviewer: gimmesomemoe.402 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - August 21, 2008
Subject: coop whatever... shut ur lips
yea coop shut ur lips... this show is dope as hell.. as for ur little bisco comment... F off, biscuits are the shit man.. sorry if u dont want to accept the new school electronic super funk crack music but keep it to urself.. ive seen phil a handful of times now and he is the shit... i am goin to ratdog tmw and cant wait.. ur to old obv for festies... bet u didnt see phish get backtogether at roth... geezer
Reviewer: GuinnessGoon - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - July 27, 2008
Subject: Awesome sound
This is a great sounding show with a good setlist and awesome performance.

Hey cooptrvler, OK we get it your OLD. I don't care who you claim that you've seen or when. I only care how the show sounds, is played, and what the setlist looks like.

Did I mention this show has great sound.
Reviewer: ballsrawls - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - April 28, 2008
Subject: It's all about what moves YOU
You know, it's funny reading this back and forth about, ummmm, oh yeah, music that's what it's all about. It reminds me of a Jerry interview concerning their shows back in the 60's. Back when he was incredibly concerned about how the show sounded and whether or not somebody missed a chord or not. Jerry was feeling disappointed about the sound after the show but for many in the audience it was a mesmerizing, if not life-changing experience. He said he learned alot from that discrepency. The point is, it's all about what moves YOU at any particular point. What's groovy and funky for some might be ordinary for others. So, if it moves you, great! If not, truck on down to the next show till you do get moved. Until then, let people who were moved enjoy their own personal experience. And we won't bother you when you are feeling it eventually.
Reviewer: akadannyboy - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - April 14, 2008
Subject: Why don't y'all take the ugly talk outside of this forum
This is a swell show and I'm shocked to see such ugly words being bandied about in this forum. You
like the show or you don't, but enough with the show date "dropping" and the threats. There has to be a car racing or an N.R.A. chat room where y'all can compare your pecker measurements. Let's keep this forum civil and show respect for one another. We are lucky to have this great archive resource and if you like Bobby, Phil, Dylan, Hank, or whomever the best, then good for you, but please be kind about it.
Reviewer: Leshtricity - - January 10, 2008
Subject: Bring it on? Here's the invitation.
Hey, talk a big game, dude. I'd love to catch up with you at the next show I'm at. I'll be seeing DSO in Asheville NC 2/28 if you're in the area and feel like backing up that big talk with some action.

Oh and I'll also be at Langerado in my native state, Florida. If you really think that an old, balding douchebag like you can back your shit up, you have the invitation. Send me a line....simply
Reviewer: cooptrvler - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - January 5, 2008
Subject: if you don't like bobby then leave us ALONE!!!!!
I have been seeing dead shows since 1978. I used to see Bobby's band and Jerry's band at the keynote in san francisco in the 70s. Over thirty years I have seen every incarnation of the band. And guess what I LOVE THE BAND!!!!

For all you Phil heads, the best Phil show I have seen in the last 7 years was the one with Trey Anastasio. Hey, Phil wants to tour with different people all the time so they never get that tight that's his business--and I guess you like to hear him warble horribly through box of rain ooooohhhh please listen to it over and over(new live versions of course.)

Did Phil write let it grow or playin' in the band or ANY of the really great dead songs? NO!!!!!

So why don't you unrespectful little muts go take an overdose of disco biscuits or whatever shitty ass drug you super cool people are doing and get out of my way because you are a bunch of spoiled little brats that need the shit kicked out of them---in the words of our idiot president(who you remind me of) BRING IT ON!!!!!!
Reviewer: dnavillus - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 9, 2007
Subject: Warrior
Go Bobby. Kesey was right...all the Dead alumni are warriors. This Time Forever > Shade of Grey is amazing...I really miss those Bobby setlists from the early/mid 90s...hardly any GD songs, but of course I am psyched he is keeping THE music going. If you like this check out the Lowell show from 8-12-2007 (I think). Ratdog is the shit. Who else can get away with opening a set with Blackbird > Twilight Time in a club! Whoever said Bobby sucks: close mindedness will leave you lonely.
Reviewer: Goose-ATL - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - May 3, 2007
Subject: Honestly
Love the cover of "White Lightning" here: a country-western song written by the late, great, George Jones in 1959. Solid show throughout, really digging the accoustic mini-set to start the show. Also I agree w/Chris F., Mexacali Blues (another country-western original from 1959 by Marty Robbins) was made for dancing. A very passionate Liberty (ooooooooh-FREEDOM). New Speedway Boogie is tight & I always love The Wheel (jazzy version here) and for something different check out the brief but funky Dark Star in set 2 which leads into a trippy ChinaCat followed by a jazzy Rider.

Anyways, as for the negative reviews that seem to be frustrating the true Deadheads on the archive, simply look at the user names: Leshtricity & Cheezhed. Really, the user names say it all; we probably have a couple of closed-minded, only listen to 1 band (P&F, SCI), hate Bobby for not being Jerry, whiners on our screw em!.

So, despite the critics & haters, I for one am looking forward to 7/7/07 when Ratdog returns to Atlanta for some jamming at Chastain Park.

Listen to this sad story: I missed my ONLY chance to see the Grateful Dead :(. My sister invited me to the Omni in 1995, when I was 17, but I passed on attempting to find a "miracle" ticket figuring I'd catch em' next year (talk about a decision that I'll regret til' the day I die!).
Well, my first "LIVE FLAVOR" of the Grateful Dead came in June of 1996 when I saw Ratdog at the Further Festival at Lakewood Amphitheatre & I've been digging all things DEAD ever since. "The Bus came by & I got on, that's when it all began!"
Look I've seen every version & cover band of the Grateful Dead since Jerry's death: The Other Ones, Ratdog, Phil & Friends, The Dead, JGB, DSO and you know what the best part is?
I love em' all and will keep enjoying em' all until I the day I leave this "Brokedown Palace"!

Reviewer: jahineverybody - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - April 28, 2007
Subject: Great show/comment
Don’t let the comments of some hating MF persuade you otherwise. If you’re a fan of modern day RD get this show, you’ll enjoy it. Lots of energy from the crowd as well as the band. There's a bunch of hooting and hollering before the music even starts. Personal favorites include the bird song jam and the second 1/2 of set 2. The dance party version of Dark star! Oh yeah! Fun. For my taste musically, modern day ratdog is about as good as it gets. They remind me in a lot of ways too the String Cheese guys. You’ll rarely if ever be blown away by musical virtuosity, but if a good time is what you’re after you’re in the right place. Funky drums, bass, and sax playing psychedelic jazzy GD tunes. Good stuff. Peace.
Reviewer: Click flash blade in ghetto night - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - April 28, 2007
Subject: Jesse Gazner...
Reviewer: Jesse Ganzer - 0 out of 5 stars - April 13, 2007
Subject: reviews?

"These comments are to review the show and quality of the recording. Will all of you grow up and take this bickering to the phantasy tour boards.

I'll give an actual review when it's done downloading."

^ you did exactly what the people who are "bickering did", only worse. you didn't even listen to the show, you angry hypocrite.

secondly, the show had a great (or perfect) star rating until you decided to give it 0 stars blindly.

thirdly, it has a stream option. why don't you decide for yourself (even when it has 10 people giving it a prefect rating)

lastly, you didn't give it "an actual review" yet, and even if you did, you'd have to review it twice to even up your 0 star rating of an obvious 5 star show.
Reviewer: Jesse Ganzer - - April 13, 2007
Subject: reviews?
These comments are to review the show and quality of the recording. Will all of you grow up and take this bickering to the phantasy tour boards.

I'll give an actual review when it's done downloading.
Reviewer: EllisDee - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - December 16, 2006
Subject: Respect man
Yea show some respect and Vince dont deserve any respect in my book.Hes sleeps with little kids or should I say he did sleep with little kids before he died.Yea thats right if you didnt know,he payed parents off to sleep with there kids and thats a fact my man.Thats why the band didnt invite him to the reunion or to where ever they went.Bobby and Phill are both great and they will be boys till there death and for peaple to talk smack about either one,well I question there loyalty to the dead and are not true deadheads.Its like there is a little war between peaple who go to phill shows and peaple who go to bobby shows.Phill and bobby are not fighting so why are peaple going to some shows talking smack about the other band.The fact is they want to do there own thing its not cuz they dont like one another like I hear so many peaple say or they say ther fighting but there not.Well just have some love and try to just get down to the music.This is a pretty good show,like most in 2003.
Peace my brothers and sisters
Reviewer: Chris Freedom - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - December 7, 2006
Subject: I could not take my rest
set1 -very nice BLACKBIRD, TWI-LIGHT a little vegas cheese but fun, I always go for Mexicali-A great chance to dance,
BTW-it was great watching this tune come back (band is grooving)The jamming that follows reminds me of when Branford would sit in
>Jack Straw(nice jam before last verse)
Dark STar(lot of trippy-head music here).
ROOSTER(If you see my...),USED TO LOVE HER,
"Freedom, liberty, leave me alone"-so many Dead tunes are community focused ,this one is not! but too much togetherness breeds conformity and knee jerk dictatorships, we each have our own roads to choose. Being a Deadhead was always a choice for me never an occupation.
set two -I get the old blues version Jerry did of
Pigs song but I like the rockin up tempo delivery here, the Weir solo stuff is like an aged wine.
SPEEDWAY cooks here, is almost a sing along yet churchy at the same time ,"does GOD look down on the boys in the barroom" THis time forever! how many pretty faces flood my mind, Bob try this before WRS sometime! Shades of Grey- better to have loved and lost then to have not loved at all.
The Wheel is my WALSTIB take stock of life song. This ABC is funky yet spacey back into D-STAR(One verse per set) Great place for China>Rider.
E)White Lightning (from the 50's I believe). Drinking Song?probably had to be there!

Comments> if you can't say anything positive about this show you should just be careful not to let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.
I am glad BOB is out playin, I knew the scene would come back to earth it just sucks that we lost the leader of the band in the process.
Reviewer: deadtrip - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 22, 2006
Subject: Leshtricity IS INSANE
Bob Weir was/is one of the biggest driving forces behind the Grateful Dead. BOB WEIR is an amazing talent. Ratdog is an incredibly tight band which play incredibly music everytime they set foot on the stage. If Leshtricity does not like it, then why even bother to waste time posting negative things?? Makes no sense.

If you can't at least show some respect, KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT. I would think both Bobby and Phil would agree with that. Do you think either of them care about your negative comments.

This show, as most Ratdog/Bob Weir shows is well worth the download and $.10 it cost you to burn it to discs.

Reviewer: eman039 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - March 28, 2006
Subject: Cheezhead is a fag
You can't try to get a full experience by just listening to the recordings no matter how good they are. You have to get up off your lazy fat ass and go to a show. I admit I was skeptical myself just listening to archive footage of ratdog but when I saw them I was pleasantly surprised. I mean its fucking bob weir for godsake, show some respect.
Reviewer: jnkim - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - March 21, 2006
Subject: cheesehead is an asshole
ratdog rocks, cheese head fuck you you dont know music. now bobby of the dead jay of the primus(whom i recently met..) rock all shows. @ tomes the music is better, but alwasy enjoyable. download this show and any norva (VA beach) recordings you can find.
Reviewer: cheezhed - favoritefavorite - December 21, 2005
Subject: I hate to say it
I dont think this show is very good at all. I have to admit I have tried to give bob and ratdog a chance by listening to their shows, but i honestly think that he sucks and so does the rest of his band.
Reviewer: cumberlanddew - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - November 3, 2005
Subject: WOOAAHHH!!!!
it desreves way more than 5 stars
the vibe of the show was like no other show ive ever been at
bobby and the band at their ABSOLUTE BEST!!
by far some of the best music ive ever heard in my lifetime is in this show
i was unaware that anyone can make music sound as good as it sounds in this show
i caution any listener... you wont be able to stop listening for a loon.. loooong.... looooooooong time
i guarentee it
Reviewer: Saint Steven - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - January 7, 2005
Subject: Great show & excellent recording
A gem for the ears! The acoustic miniset up front is a great way to start the show. And this one is filled with classic Bobby.

and to end the show... [Alphabet Soup Jam > Dark Star > China > Rider] quite amazing!

much appreciation for this one!
Reviewer: tankbuster - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - November 22, 2004
Subject: killer show
cozy venue...cozy vibe...enjoyed more than any dead show i saw with exception of 1stnight chapel hill...blackbird set mood for evening
Reviewer: dirty jev-o - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - November 11, 2004
Subject: sick quality
nice to hear bob sing these least some one is doin it, and i swear you can almost hear Jerry singin backup {i know that sounds cheesy} but it is true..listen to liberty.....different sound than the dead all together......but i like BOBBY!!!
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